The egocentric paths are nothing to do with the path of wisdom.+

All paths are egocentric. Egocentric paths cannot transport you into reality, beyond form, time, and space, while reality prevails prior to the illusory form, time, and space.

Egocentric knowledge is based on form, time, and space whereas Self-knowledge is based on the Soul, the Self.

The egocentric paths are nothing to do with the path of wisdom.

Deeper self –search reveals the Self is not the waking entity or ego but the Self is the Soul, the Self, which is in the form of consciousness then why follow the paths based on the false self?

Only by realizing the form (universe) is formless because form (universe) is made of the formless stuff (Soul) leads one to Self-awareness.

All other paths are based on the ego, which is the false self that holds practical life within the practical world as reality never realizes the truth because they accepted something else as truth and their accepted truth is the greatest hindrance is realizing the ultimate truth.

All egocentric paths are meant for the ignorant people who are incapable of inquiring into the nature of the universe (waking or mind) in which they exist.

It becomes very difficult for people who are incapable of grasping the ultimate truth because of their inherited and inborn conditioning.

The seeker must have the knowledge of the matter (universe or mind) and the spirit (Soul or consciousness).

A seeker of truth has to know somewhere he is going wrong, and it is for the seeker to go on his own and remove all the obstacles.

The greatest hindrance is mixing religion, god, scriptures, and yogic theories. Moreover, attachment to scriptures, personal god, and religious code of conduct keep one permanently in the grip of duality.

Remember:~

To acquire Self-knowledge must realize that form, time, and space are created out of single stuff. And that single stuff is the Soul, the Self, which is present in the form of consciousness.

No mantras help to get rid of ignorance. All the mantras and rituals are meant for the ignorant populace, which strongly believes, that the world in which he exists as a reality. For one who wants to acquire self-knowledge or Bramha Gnana or Atma Gnana, the mantas will not help to realize the truth, which is beyond form, time, and space.

That is why Sage Sankara:~ VC~.61. For one who has been bitten by the serpent of Ignorance, the only remedy is the knowledge of Brahman. Of what avail are the Vedas and (other) Scriptures, Mantras (sacred formulae), and medicines to such a one?

VC- 6~ Let erudite scholars quote all the scripture, let Gods be invoked through sacrifices, let elaborate rituals be performed, let personal gods be propitiated---yet, without the realization of one‘s identity With the Self, there shall be no liberation for the individual, not even in the lifetimes of a hundred Brahmas put together

Sage Sankara goes on to say: ~ A sickness of not cured by saying the word “medicine.” You must take the medicine. Liberation does not come by merely saying the word “Brahman.” Brahman must be experienced. Until you allow this apparent universe to dissolve from your consciousness until you have realized Brahman, how can you find liberation just by saying the word Brahman? The result is merely noise. Until a man has destroyed his enemies and taken possession of the splendor and wealth of the kingdom, he cannot become a king by simply saying “I am a king.”

A buried treasure is not uncovered by merely uttering the words: “Come forth.” You must follow the right directions, dig, remove the stones and earth from above it, and then make it your own. In the same way, the pure truth of the Atman, which is buried under Maya and the effects of Maya, can be reached by meditation, contemplation, and other spiritual disciplines but never by subtle arguments. : ~ Santthosh Kumaar

There is neither God nor Goddess but only consciousness. Consciousness is God in truth.+

Q: JV:~ in terms of beauty and the female principle (not sex) Prakriti. What is the position of Vedanta on this kind of worship? Nature worship or worship of beauty? Sorry if I am belaboring.

A:~Santthosh Kumaar: ~ “The beauty implies duality. The duality is ignorance. Whatever belongs to duality is a falsehood.

There is neither God nor Goddess but only consciousness. Consciousness is God in truth. All Gods based on blind belief are not God in truth.

God and Goddess are religious concepts. Whatever is seen, known, believed, and experienced as a person within the dualistic illusion (world) is a falsehood.

Ish Upanishads:-

MANTRA 10

Vidya and Avidya both are hindrances to Self-knowledge, but Vidya is even worse than Avidya. The word Vidya is used here in a special sense; here it means worshiping Gods and Goddesses. By worshiping Gods and Goddesses, you will go after death to the world of Gods and Goddesses. But will that help you? The time you spent there is wasted because if you were not there you could have spent that time moving forward towards Self-knowledge, which is your goal. In the world of Gods and Goddesses, you cannot do that, and thus you go deeper and deeper into darkness.

Avidya is Karma and, therefore, a hindrance. You perform Avidya - i.e., you perform Agnihotra and other sacrifices. This is a roundabout way of purifying the mind, and it is also groping in the dark. But it may not have as heavy a toll on your time and energy as the other.

Ishopanishad:~ "They are steeped in ignorance and sunk into the greatest depth of misery who worships the matter, instead of the All-Pervading God and those who worship things born of matter like trees, animals, man, etc. are sunk deeper in misery." 

Bhagavad Gita: ~ Brahmano hi pratisthaham ~ Brahman (God in truth) is considered the all-pervading consciousness (Spirit), which is the basis of all the animate and inanimate entities and material. (14.27).

When Bhagavad Gita says, God is considered the all-pervading consciousness (Spirit) which is the basis of all the animate and inanimate entities and material then nothing has to be accepted as God other than consciousness.

Lord Krishna says Ch ~V: ~ “Those who know the Self in truth.". The last two words (tattvataha) are usually ignored by pundits, but they make all the difference between the ordinary concept of God and the truth about God.

The dualistic worship of "God” is only for the ignorant populace. The God in truth is only Atman, the innermost ‘Self’. In reality, there is no duality, no differentiation. Only the Atman, God exists.

First, know what God is supposed to be according to your own scriptures.

The Vedas confirm God is Atman (Spirit), the Self.

Yajurveda – chapter- 32:~ God is Supreme Spirit has no ‘Pratima’ (idol) or material shape. God cannot be seen directly by anyone. God pervades all beings and all directions. Thus, Idolatry does not find any support from the Vedas.

Rig Veda: ~ 'Prajnanam Brahma'- Consciousness is the ultimate reality or Brahman or God in truth.

God in truth is the Atman, the Self. Atman is present in the form of consciousness.

Do not accept any other God other than Atman not worship other than Atman.

Let these words be inscribed in your subconscious.

Nothing is real but God. Nothing Matters but love for God in truth. God in truth is everywhere and in everything.

God in truth is hidden by the illusory universe. God in truth alone is and all else is an illusion.

God in truth is neither He nor She. God in truth simply means the fullness of consciousness without the division of form, time, and space.

God in truth means eternal existence beyond form, time, and space. God expresses in two ways, dual and nondual. God is the unmanifest source of the dual. The manifested dual existence is merely an illusion.

You cannot call God 'He', you cannot call God 'She, because He or She individualized God whereas God in truth is not an individual because God is a formless, timeless, and spaceless existence.

For centuries the word ‘He’ has been used for God. God is present in the form of the Spirit. The Spirit is present in the form of consciousness.

If you really want to go deep into the phenomenon of God, Then God does not exist at all ~as an individual because God in truth pervades everything and everywhere. God is only a presence.

In other words, there is no religious God but only consciousness. Consciousness pervades and permeates, the world in which we all exist.

Once you start thinking of God as the consciousness, your whole outlook on life, on religion, on love, will be totally different. The real existence consists not of the dualistic illusion but nondualistic reality.

God in truth is not physical. God in truth is present in the form of the Spirit. The Spirit is the cause of the world and the Spirit itself is uncaused.

God in truth is not physical. God in truth is present in the form of the Spirit. The Spirit is the cause of the world and the Spirit itself is uncaused. In reality, the spirit (God in truth) and matter (the world in which we exist) are one.

Vedas bars nature and human worship: ~

"They are enveloped in darkness, in other words, are steeped in ignorance and sunk in the greatest depths of misery who worship the uncreated, eternal prakrti -- the material cause of the world -- in place of the All-pervading God, But those who worship visible things born of the prakrti, such as the earth, trees, bodies (human and the like) in place of God are enveloped in still greater darkness, in other words, they are extremely foolish, fall into an awful hell of pain and sorrow, and suffer terribly for a long time."-(Yajur Veda 40:9.)

Then why worship the female or male principal in place of God when Veda bars such activities and it also warns people who indulge in such activities are enveloped in still greater darkness, in other words, they are extremely foolish, fall into an awful hell of pain and sorrow, and suffer terribly for a long time.

Indulging in glorifying the human form is erroneous because the human belongs to Prakriti. Prakriti is the dualistic illusion. Whatever belongs to Prakriti is bound to be an illusion.

Whatever worshipped of the dualistic illusion will keep one in ignorance.

The ‘Self’ God exists prior to the form, time, and space. Form, time, and space cease to exist as a reality when wisdom dawns. Thus, human has no place in the domain of the Advaitic reality. Advaita is the nature of the Soul, which is the real God. Thus, Self-realization is the only way to God-realization.

By worshipping the beauty of nature and humans’ one will not get Self-realization or God-realization.

The Soul, the inner Guru reveals ‘what is real’ and ‘what is unreal” when the seeker is receptive and ready.

There is neither God (male) nor Goddess (female) but only consciousness. Consciousness is real God. Focus your attention on the Soul, the only reality. : ~Santthosh Kumaar

The seeker should be aware of everything that is untrue: stick to the truth and he shall succeed, maybe slowly, but surely.+

It takes time to understand, assimilate and realize God in truth but if you have an intense urge to know what God suppose to be in truth then you will surely realize it.

The one who is seeking truth must know what God suppose to be in actuality. In spirituality, the ultimate truth is Brahman or God in truth.

The truth you are seeking is to realize God in truth hidden by ignorance.

Jesus said: ~ "Those who seek should not stop seeking until they find. When they find, they will be disturbed. When they are disturbed, they will marvel, and will reign over all." (Gospel of Thomas 2)

The seeker should be aware of everything that is untrue: stick to the truth and he shall succeed, maybe slowly, but surely.

Religion can never make you know God. Only an intense urge to know what God is supposed to be in truth can make you realize God. The Soul, the ‘Self is the Infinite God.

Lord Krishna says Ch ~V: ~ “Those who know the ‘Self’ in truth.". The last two words (tattvataha) are usually ignored by pundits, but they make all the difference between the ordinary concept of God and the truth about God.

The dualistic worship of "God” is only for the ignorant populace. The God in truth is only Atman, the Self. In reality, there is no duality, no differentiation. Only Atman exists.

Religious Gods are based on blind faith or blind belief. Gods based on blind faith or blind belief are not God in truth.

Religious God cannot be considered as the cause of the universe because the Soul, the ‘Self’ is the cause of all that exists as the universe.

Without the Soul the universe in which you exist ceases to exist, which means the religious Gods are dependent on the Soul for their existence.

God in truth is only the Soul, which is present in the form of consciousness.

Even Bhagavad Gita says : ~ Brahmano hi pratisthaham ~ Brahman (God) is considered the all-pervading consciousness, which is the basis of all the animate and inanimate entities and material. (14.27).

When Bhagavad Gita says, God is considered the all-pervading consciousness which is the basis of all the animate and inanimate entities and material then nothing has to be accepted as God other than consciousness.

Even Brihadaranyaka Upanishad: ~ Brahman (God in truth) is the form of the Athma, and it is indeed Athma itself.

Rig Veda: ~ 'Prajnanam Brahma'- Consciousness is the ultimate reality or Brahman or God in truth.

God in truth is the Atman, the Self. Atman is present in the form of consciousness.

Do not accept any other God other than Atman not worship other than Atman.

Let these words be inscribed in your subconscious.

Nothing is real but God. Nothing Matters but love for God in truth. God in truth is everywhere and in everything.

God in truth is hidden by the illusory universe. God in truth alone is and all else is an illusion.

Even Rig Veda: ~ The Atman is the cause; Atman is the support of all that exists in this universe. May ye never turn away from the Atman, the Self. May ye never accept another God in place of the Atman nor worship other than the Atman?" (10:48, 5)

Brihadaranyaka Upanishad declares:~ "He who worships the deities as entities entirely separate from the Self does not know the truth. For the gods, he is like a pasu (beast)". (1. 4. 10)

No mantras help to get rid of ignorance. All the mantras and rituals are meant for the ignorant populace, which strongly believes, that the world in which he exists as a reality.

For one who wants to acquire Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana, the mantas will not help to realize the truth, which is beyond form, time, and space.

That is why Sage Sankara:~ VC~.61. For one who has been bitten by the serpent of Ignorance, the only remedy is the knowledge of Brahman. Of what avail are the Vedas and (other) Scriptures, Mantras (sacred formulae), and medicines to such a one?

VC- v6~ Let erudite scholars quote all the scripture, let Gods be invoked through sacrifices, let elaborate rituals be performed, let personal Gods be propitiated---yet, without the realization of one‘s identity With the Self, there shall be no liberation for the individual, not even in the lifetimes of a hundred Brahmas put together

Sage Sankara goes on to say: ~A sickness of not cured by saying the word “medicine.” You must take the medicine. Liberation does not come by merely saying the word “Brahman.” Brahman must be experienced. Until you allow this apparent universe to dissolve from your consciousness until you have realized Brahman, how can you find liberation just by saying the word Brahman? The result is merely a noise. Until a man has destroyed his enemies and taken possession of the splendor and wealth of the kingdom, he cannot become a king by simply saying “I am a king.”

A buried treasure is not uncovered by merely uttering the words: “Come forth.” You must follow the right directions, dig, remove the stones and earth from above it, and then make it your own. In the same way, the pure truth of the Atman, which is buried under Maya and the effects of Maya, can be reached by meditation, contemplation, and other spiritual disciplines but never by subtle arguments. : ~ Santthosh Kumaar

Reading one or two posts and trying to assimilate Self-knowledge will not help one to realize the truth.+

The Advaitic truth is very simple, but it is very difficult to grasp because of ignorance. You have to only realize the world in which you exist is created out of single clay. And that single clay is the Soul, which is present in the form of consciousness.

Thus, you and your body and the world in which you exist are nothing but consciousness because they are merely an illusion created out of consciousness. A perfect understanding of ‘what is what’ is needed.

It is necessary to reflect on the same truth again and again till it becomes a reality. One needs to constantly reflect on the subject until he gets a firm conviction of what is what. Words of wisdom  are needed until one gets a firm conviction of ‘what is what’. People need to read and hear the words of wisdom to think reason and reflect deeply and reach the ultimate end.

It takes time for the seeker to gain the perfect understanding of ‘what is truth’ and 'what is untruth’. It takes time for the Soul, the Self to wake up from the sleep of ignorance, and it takes time for one realizes the truth, which is beyond form, time, and space. 

Remember:~

A Gnani can point at the sky, but the seeing of the star is the seeker's own work.

My postings encourage the seeker to seek the truth but seekers must have receptiveness and the capacity to understand and assimilate Self-knowledge.

The seeker has to think and reason independently. No blind belief can save you, work out your own salvation.

Advaitic wisdom can never be gained by argument and provocation.

The Atmic path is not for those who are incapable to understand and assimilate Self-knowledge.

Discard all the accumulated dualistic knowledge by realizing the illusory world in which you exist as reality exists because of ignorance.

All my blogs and posts themselves are the discussion. Reading the blogs and posting the inner discussion will start and clear all your doubts and confusion,.It is your sincerity and seriousness that will make you reach the ultimate end of understanding and realization. The Soul, the 'Self' reveals ‘what is real’ and ‘what is unreal' when the seeker is receptive and ready.

Atmic path is not for those who are in a hurry and have no patience and no humility.

It is necessary to reflect on the same truth again and again till it becomes a reality.

Gnani shows the way. it is for the seeker to realize the Self hidden by the dualistic illusion or Maya.

Reading one or two posts and trying to assimilate Self-knowledge will not help one to realize the truth.

One needs to constantly reflect on the subject until he gets a firm conviction of what is what. Words are needed until one gets a firm conviction of 'what is what’. People need to read and hear the words of wisdom to think reason and reflect deeply and reach the ultimate end.

The seekers who will approach with receptiveness as they should be approached may conceivably pause at any time and say, these pointers are helping them to think on their own and assimilate the Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana and understand it properly and perfectly.

The seekers who have the capacity to assimilate and realize the Self hidden by ignorance.

You must first train yourself to think and reason from the non-dualistic perspective then only when you read about Advaitic reality does the true meaning become apparent.

It is not possible to give a sudden revelation of Advaita in one or two letters, or in an interview or two: a course of personal mental training must be undergone.

Hence reading my blogs and posting umpteen times is necessary to the seeker to make the subconscious Soulcentric.

You, yourself must do the work of realizing Truth by using your own judgment and reason. Nobody else, no guru can do it for you. :~Santthosh Kumaar

If one is seeking truth there is no need to discuss no need to argue. One needs to read and think and reason deeply.+

Some people pass their opinion based on their accumulated knowledge thinking their accumulated knowledge as the ultimate truth but their ‘I’ know attitude merely brings on a little personal enjoyment to them but it is not good for Self-realization.

The Atmic path is not a path of exchange of views and opinions but the path of realization of the truth, which is beyond form, time, and space.

Swami Vivekananda:~ The wicked are always looking for defects. Flies come and seek the ulcer, and bees come only for the honey in the flower. Do not follow the way of the fly but that of the bee.

Some people just want to exhibit their accumulated knowledge accumulated from here and there. They think what they know is the ultimate truth.

They think whatever they propagate is the ultimate truth. The question never occurs to them, “Is what I know really the truth?

Mundaka Upanishad 1:2:8:~ “Remaining in the fold of ignorance and thinking “we are extremely wise and learned,” the fools with boastful nature ramble about like the blind led by the blind alone.”

No one can teach anybody. Wisdom is hidden within the world in which you exist. A Gnani can only show the way that much is the work of a Gnani.

A Gnani only guides the seekers to apply their own reason and realize the truth, which is beyond form, time, and space. When the seeker learns to view and judge and reason the three states on the base of the Soul, the truth will start unfolding on its own.

First, the seeker may find it difficult to use soulcentric reason but gradually it will become easy.:~

Instead of finding fault first realize what the Self is in actuality. Honest introspection will reveal that all fault lies with “you” and “your "own perceptions and attitudes. If there is an error in understanding what 'Self' is in actuality it is in “you". Correcting this and changing to a Soulcentric attitude will change your perception and then the Soul; the 'Self' will reveal its formless, timeless, and spaceless true nature.

If you are unable to grasp the truth hidden by the ‘I’ then you will never be able to grasp nonduality or Advaita.

Remember:~

What is there to discuss and argue and exchange opinions when the reality is ever nondual?

Discussion and argument are possible only in the domain of duality and duality is the product of ignorance.

If one is seeking truth there is no need to discuss no need to argue, read and think and reason deeply, then the truth will start revealing on its own. Be an independent thinker.

Do not accept anything without verification the seeker should not argue and waste his time.

The argument will not yield truth. Only intellectuals argue to exhibit their intellectual wealth.

The intellectual argument is based on ego. The ego-based intellectuality is limited to form, time, and space. The truth you are seeking is based on the Soul.

The Soul is hidden by the illusory form, time, and space. Thus, what is the use of egocentric argument in the soulcentric discussion?

That is why Bhagavan Buddha said: ~ Believe nothing because a wise man said it, Believe nothing because it is generally held. Believe nothing because it is written. Believe nothing because it is said to be divine. Believe nothing because someone else said it. But believe only what you yourself judge to be true.

Remember:~

It is impossible to deny water is the cause of the snow. In the same way, it is impossible to deny consciousness is the cause of the universe.

Consciousness is Self-evident. It is not established by extraneous proof. It is not possible to deny consciousness because it is the very essence of the one who denies it. Consciousness is the basis of all kinds of knowledge, presuppositions, and proofs. Consciousness is the Self.

Until one thinks of his body as body, ego as ego the universe as the universe, he remains in ignorance because he is still in ignorance and he is unaware of the fact that they too are the consciousness. 

The Advaiutic wisdom consists in knowing the truth, that everything (mind or physical existence) is consciousness. Freedom (ultimate truth) is always there yet one does not know it. But those whose reason is turned away from physicality and who have attained the serenity of the Soul or consciousness, the Self, are quite near to realizing the ultimate truth or Brahman.

Ashtavakra: ~ Diamonds are not many; only pebbles and rocks are so common. A single diamond is enough.

Intellectuals argue, that if everything is consciousness, how can one give up anything? Can you give up anything? These types of questions are speculation based on the waking entity (ego), which is the false Self within the false experience.

Without knowing the ‘Self is not the form but the ‘Self’ is formless it is impossible to realize the truth, which is beyond the form, time, and space.

All their speculation is limited to the domain of form, time, and space whereas the truth is beyond form, time, and space. They are incapable of understanding and assimilating truth, which is the ever-formless, timeless and spaceless existence. They refuse to verify and they want the truth on their own terms. : ~ Santthosh Kumaar

You, your words, thoughts, and world in which you exist are products of ignorance. The truth, which you are seeking is hidden by ignorance.+

When you realize the words, thoughts, and world in which you exist are created out of single stuff and that single stuff is consciousness, then you will realize the truth which is hidden by the illusory form, time, and space.

You, your words, thoughts, and world in which you exist are products of ignorance. The truth, which you are seeking is hidden by ignorance.

When everything is created out of consciousness then there is no second thing that exists, other than consciousness. It takes time to grasp the Advaitic truth. All the obstacles have to be overcome one by one.

Realize with full and a firm conviction that: ~

You are not you but the consciousness; your body is not the body but consciousness, and the world in which you exist is not the world but the consciousness.

Everything known, seen, believed, and experienced by you is nothing but consciousness then what else remains, which is not consciousness?

There is nothing else to realize other than to realize that consciousness alone is, everything else is merely an illusion created out of consciousness.

By realizing everything is consciousness, the Advaitic wisdom dawns. Perfect understanding and assimilation of ‘what is what’- leads to Advaitic awareness.

No one recognizes the water in the cloud.

No one recognizes the water in the snow.

No one recognizes the consciousness in the universe.

The cloud will not form without the water.

The snow will not form without the water.

The universe will not exist without consciousness.

Rig Veda: ~ 'Prajnanam Brahma'- Consciousness is the ultimate reality or Brahman or God in truth.

Do not accept any other God other than the Soul. The Soul is God in truth,  Nothing is real but the Soul, which is present in the form of consciousness. Nothing matters but realizing God in truth. God in truth is everywhere and in everything. Let these words be inscribed in your subconscious.

God in truth is hidden by the illusory universe. God in truth alone is real and eternal and all else is an illusion.

Brahman is merely a word to indicate the ultimate truth or God in truth.  The ultimate truth itself is God in truth. 

Without the world, in which you exist God in truth alone exists. When God in truth disappears the world, in which you exist appears. The world, in which you exist disappears God in truth appears. Thus, realize the God in truth to be the Soul.

The Soul is the Self. Thus, the Soul which is present in the form of consciousness is the ultimate truth or Brahman or God in truth.

If you stick to the ultimate truth then the world in which you exist is merely an illusion created out of consciousness. If you realize this truth you will live in this world but not of this world. Thus, consciousness alone is real and eternal. : ~ Santthosh Kumaar