Wednesday 14 September 2022

God in truth does not belong to any particular religion because God in truth is universal.+

It is high time for humanity to realize what God is supposed to be in actuality to realize God, which they believe and worship not God in reality.

All religious Gods are external and the real God is hidden by the ‘I’. Religion and its Gods cease to exist without the ‘I’.

All the religious Gods with form, names, and attributes can exist only in the domain of the dualistic illusion or Maya whereas God in truth is hidden by the dualistic illusion or Maya.

God is hidden by the dualistic illusion or Maya because the dualistic illusion or Maya is created out of the Soul, the real God. The dualistic illusion or Maya is present in the form of 'I'.

All religious Gods are external and the real God is hidden by the ‘I’. Religion and its Gods cease to exist without the ‘I’.

The ‘I’ hides the Soul, the God in truth, which is present in the form of consciousness.

Consciousness is the ultimate truth because it is second to none. Consciousness is ever-present. Without consciousness, the world, in which you exist ceases to exist.

Religious Gods are not God in truth. Spiritual God is God in truth because God is Spirit. The universe is nothing but an illusion created out of Spirit or God in truth.

Whatever is seen, known, believed, and experienced as an individual is nothing but an illusion created out of God, the Spirit. God in truth does belong to any particular religion because God in truth is universal.

Religious Gods are not universal God in truth is Spirit. People are unaware of the fact that whatever they believe and worship as God is not God in truth according to their own scriptures.

Remember:~

You are being conditioned by the religious myth which has made you a non-thinker. Come out of the religious myth by realizing God in truth.


Rig Veda: ~ 'Prajnanam Brahma': - Consciousness is the ultimate reality or Brahman or God in truth.

God in truth is the Atman, the Self. Atman is present in the form of consciousness.

Do not accept any other God other than Atman not worship other than Atman.

Let these words be inscribed in your subconscious.

Nothing is real but God. Nothing Matters but love for God in truth. God in truth is everywhere and in everything.

God in truth is hidden by the illusory universe. God in truth alone is and all else is an illusion.
God in truth is self-evident. God in truth is not established by extraneous proof. It is not possible to deny God in truth because God is the very essence of the one who denies it. God in truth is the basis of all kinds of knowledge, presuppositions, and proofs. God in truth is within the universe in which you exist, God in truth is without the universe in which you exist.

Yajur Veda – chapter- 32:~ God is Supreme Spirit has no ‘Pratima’ (idol) or material shape. God cannot be seen directly by anyone. God pervades all beings and all directions.

Yajurveda: ~ There is no image of God in truth. God in truth is unborn and eternal. (Chapter 32, Verse 3)

Yajurveda: ~ God in truth is nondual and pure"

Yajurveda: ~ "They are entering darkness, those who worship the natural things (like air, water, fire, etc.), they are sinking more in darkness who worship created things." (Chapter 40, Verse 9)

God with name and attributes does not find any support in the Vedas.
God in truth is the Supreme Being the One eternal homogeneous essence, indivisible consciousness, and intelligence, which is beyond form, time, and space. Sages describe in a variety of ways through diverse words.
Bhagavad Gita: ~ ‘All those whose intelligence has been stolen by material desires, they worship many Gods. (7- Verse -20)
Only the path of wisdom leads the seeker of truth on his journey to the ultimate realization of the true nature of the Universal Essence, which is the Soul. The Soul is present in the form of consciousness.
Bhagavad Gita: 7: 19:~ "Such a man who has attained Self- knowledge or the knowledge of Atman, worships ‘Self’ as~ Atman (God) alone exists~ everything is Atman, there exists nothing except Atman. Such a man is extremely rare."
Bhagavad Gita: ~ Brahmano hi pratisthaham ~ Brahman (God in truth) is considered the all-pervading consciousness, which is the basis of all the animate and inanimate entities and material. (14.27).

When Bhagavad Gita says, God is considered the all-pervading consciousness which is the basis of all the animate and inanimate entities and material then nothing has to be accepted as God other than consciousness.

Manduka Upanishad, verse-2:~ All indeed is this Brahman; This Atman is Brahman;

Kena Upanishad (6) Chapter I: ~ “That which cannot be apprehended by the mind, but by which, they say, the mind is apprehended-That alone know as Brahman, and not that which people here worship.

Kena Upanishad (7) Chapter I:~ That which cannot be perceived by the eye, but by which the eye is perceived-That alone know as Brahman and not that which people here worship.

Kena Upanishad (8) Chapter I:~ That which cannot be heard by the ear, but by which the hearing is perceived-That alone know as Brahman and not that which people here worship.

Kena Upanishad (9)- Chapter I:~ That which cannot be smelt by the breath, but by which the breath smells an object-That alone know as Brahman, and not that which people here worship.

Bible says: ~ “God is a Spirit, and they that worship God must worship God in spirit and in truth. (John 4:24)

God is not physical but God is the Spirit. God is the truth. Know the truth that truth will set you free.

The Spirit is the root element of the universe. The Spirit is present in the form of the Soul, the Self. The Soul is present in the form of consciousness. From the Spirit, the universe comes into existence. In the Spirit, the universe resides. And into the Spirit, the universe is dissolved. The Spirit is the parent of all that is there is. :~Santthosh Kumaar

It is foolish to hold the Self as you because you and your experience of the world appear with the ‘I’ and disappear with the ‘I’.+

It is impossible for the seeker to discard the ‘I’ because they are stuck up with the idea that ‘I’ itself is the Self. In the past some famous Gurus and their teachings glorified the ‘I’ and people take it as a final and accepted it as the ultimate truth.

Such acceptance without verifying the fact about the ‘I’, their journey is incomplete. Blind acceptance and reverence to the guru will not help the seeker get rid of the ignorance.

Firstly, doubt about this ‘I’, how it came into existence. There is no other means to the final goal is the realization of the source of the ‘I’. There is a need to understand, assimilate, and realize the nature of this ‘I’, which appears and disappears.

It is erroneous to use the word ‘I’ for the Self, because ‘I’ represents the form, time, and space whereas the Soul, the innermost Self is a formless, timeless, and spaceless existence.

Bhagavad Gita: ~ “The permanent is always there, only the transient ‘I’ comes and goes.” (2.18)

To understand the false nature of the ‘I’, the Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana is necessary.

The Self is not ‘I’, but the Self is the Soul which is the witness of the ‘I’. By holding the’ Self’ ‘I' leads to hallucination based on imagination.

Those who are stuck with the ‘I’ based teaching never be able to cross the domain of form, time, and space: 

Remember:~

The Soul is prior to the ‘I’. The Soul is the ultimate truth or Brahman or God in truth. People say I AM THAT ~ I am God, I am Brahman. But when Brahman is, how can "I" remain? Only Brahman (God) remains, not the ‘I’.

It is erroneous to use the word ‘I’ for the Self, because ‘I’ represents the form, time, and space whereas the Soul, the Self is a formless, timeless, and spaceless existence.

You are not prior to the Soul, the Self. The Soul, the Self is God in truth. It is foolish to hold the Self as you because you and your experience of the world appear with the ‘I’ and disappear with the ‘I’.

Bhagvad Gita: ~ “You must first see the ‘I’ as illusory before you see others as illusory. ~ CH.2 v.16

The seeker has to make sure what is this ‘I’ supposed to be? The seeker has to make sure the unreal nature of the ‘I’ which comes and goes in order to realize the truth, which is beyond the form, time, and space

That is why Bhagavad Gita: ~ “The permanent is always there, only the transient ‘I’ comes and goes. (2.18)

The ‘I’ hides the Soul, the Self, which is present in the form of consciousness.

People think the ‘I’ without the body is the Self. The seeker has to understand the fact that ‘I’ is not the Self, but the witness of the ‘I’ is the true Self, which is eternal.

That is why Ashtavakra Gita 16:10:~ “If you desire liberation, but you still say "I," If you feel the ‘Self’ is the ‘I’, You are not a wise man or a seeker. You are simply a man who suffers.

People are stuck with the reality of the ‘I’, which they take it as real because some Gurus have propagated the Self is the ‘I’. is no need to convince such a mindset. The seeker of truth accepts only the truth nothing but the truth.

That is why Sage Sankara says: - VC-65- As a treasure hidden underground requires (for its extraction) competent instruction, excavation, the removal of stones and other such things lying above it and (finally) grasping, but never comes out by being (merely) called out by name, so the transparent Truth of the Self, which is hidden by Maya and its effects, is to be attained through the instructions of a knower of Brahman, followed by reflection, meditation and so forth, but not through perverted arguments.

People refuse to accept anything other than their Gurus' words. For them, their Guru's words are the ultimate truth. They do not accept anything else other than their accepted truth. There is no need to convince such a mindset.

Such a mindset is not fit to acquire Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana. The seekers of truth accept only the truth nothing but the uncontradictable truth. : ~ Santthosh Kumaar

Tuesday 13 September 2022

Nirguna (attributeless) is the nature of the Soul, the Self, which is God in truth.+


Nirguna (attributeless) is the nature of the Soul, the Self, which is God in truth. The Saguna (attributed) is the nature of the mind, which is present in the form of the universe.
The Soul is the knower of the Saguna (mind). The Saguna (mind or the universe) is merely an illusion, from the standpoint of the nirguna, which is the Soul, the Self.
Thus, the Saguna (mind or world) is a myth from the standpoint of the nirguna, which is the Soul, the innermost Self.
The Soul is the real Self and eternal identity. The nirguna (Soul) can remain with or without the Saguna (mind) whereas the Saguna (mind) is dependent on Nirguna (Soul) for its existence
Nirguna and Saguna are classified only in duality. In non-dual reality there is neither the nirguna nor the saguna, everything is one. Therefore, the nirguna and the Saguna are one, in essence, that Soul, which is present in the form of consciousness.
The Saguna is the mind because when the mind is present then all the attributes are present, and when the mind is absent then the attributes are absent.
The Samadhi is the natural state of the Soul, the Self. In the natural state, the attributes are non-existent and in duality ( the mind), all the attributes are present.
Thus, duality and nonduality are the nature of the Soul, the innermost Self. The duality and the nonduality are not some theories. The theoretical duality and nonduality is nothing to do with the ultimate truth or Brahman.
The world in which we exist is present in the form of objective awareness. The whole objective awareness is created out of single stuff. That single stuff is the Soul, which is present in the form of consciousness. The knowledge of the single stuff is Self -knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana.
The dual (waking or dream) and nondual (deep sleep) experiences appear and disappear. The Soul is the witness of the coming and going, of the three states.
All three states are made of single stuff. That single stuff is the Soul, which is present in the form of consciousness.
Thus, the single stuff alone is real and eternal and the entire three states are merely an illusion created out of the Single stuff.
Realization of the single stuff, which is the Soul, which is present in the form of consciousness, is Self -realization.
Till ignorance is there the three states are experienced as a reality.

Thus, it is very much necessary to realize the fact that there is no second thing that exists other than the Soul is present in the form of consciousness.

Remember:~

Sage Sankara’s Supreme Brahman is impersonal, Nirguna (without Gunas or attributes), Nirakara (formless), Nirvisesha (without special characteristics), immutable, eternal, and Akarta (non-agent). It is above all needs and desires. It is always the Witnessing Subject. It can never become an object as It is beyond the reach of the senses. Brahman is non-dual, one without a second. It has no other besides it. It is destitute of difference, either external or internal. Brahman cannot be described because description implies a distinction. Brahman cannot be distinguished from any other than It. In Brahman, there is not distinction between substance and attribute. Sat-Chit-Ananda constitutes the very essence or Svarupa of Brahman and not just Its attributes. The Nirguna Brahman of Sage Sankara is impersonal.

Sage Sankara said:~Neither by the practice of yoga nor philosophy, nor by good works nor by learning, does liberation come, but only through the realization that Atman and Brahman are one in no other way.(1) Vivekachoodamani v 56, pg 25

Sage Sankara himself says ~ VC- 61- For one who has been bitten by the serpent of Ignorance, the only remedy is the knowledge of Brahman. Of what avail are the Vedas and (other) Scriptures, Mantras (sacred formulae), and medicines to such a one?

62. A disease does not leave off if one simply utters the name of the medicine, without taking it; (similarly) without direct realization one cannot be liberated by the mere utterance of the word Brahman.

63. Without causing the objective universe to vanish and without knowing the truth of the ‘Self’ how is one to achieve Liberation by the mere utterance of the word Brahman? — It would result merely in an effort of speech.

Consciousness is qualityless because it is a formless, timeless, and spaceless existence. I humbly request you to read my posts and blogs, you will find answers to all your questions.

All happening is within the waking experience. The waking experience is merely an illusion from the standpoint of the Soul, the ‘Self’.

Thus, the experience of birth, life, death, and the world is within the illusory waking experience is bound to be an illusion. The Soul is nothing to do with the experience of birth, life, death, and the world, because the Soul, the ‘Self’ is unborn and eternal. : ~ Santthosh Kumaar

All those Gurus whose intelligence has been stolen by ignorance, they hold the illusory 'I' as reality and say IAM THAT.+

All those Gurus whose intelligence has been stolen by ignorance, they hold the illusory 'I' as reality and say IAM THAT.

All Gurus and their teaching of the past and present Glorified the ‘I’ and made seekers permanently remain in ignorance.

Many Gurus in the past used the word ‘I’ to indicate the ‘Self’. They think the ‘I’ without the body is the ‘Self’.

Sage Sankara says the transparent Truth of the Self, which is hidden by the illusion, is to be attained through the instructions of a knower of Brahman, (Gnani).
First, know ‘what is the truth’ and ‘what is untruth’ for sure. Without realizing what untruth truth is, it is difficult to know what truth is.
The seeker has to realize the fact that ‘I’ is not the ‘Self’, but the Soul, the witness of the ‘I’ is the true ‘Self’, which is eternal.
That is why Bhagavan Buddha: ~ “Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders.
It is erroneous to identify the Soul, the ‘Self’ as 'I' or 'I AM' because the Soul the ‘Self’ is not 'I' or I AM’. The Soul the ‘Self’, is the cause of the 'I'.
To understand the false nature of the ‘I’, the ‘Self’-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana is necessary.
The ‘Self’ is not ‘I’, but the ‘Self’ is the Soul which is the cause of the ‘I’. Holding the ‘I as the ‘Self’ leads to hallucination based on imagination.
The ‘I’ hides the Soul, the Self, which is the cause of the 'I'. The realization of ultimate truth or Brahman is possible only when the seeker inquiries into the nature of the ‘I’.

People say I AM THAT ~ I am God, I am Brahman. But when Brahman is, how can "I" remain? Only Brahman remains, not I.

It is erroneous to use the word ‘I’ for the Self, because ‘I’ represents the form, time, and space whereas the Soul, the Self is a formless, timeless and spaceless existence.
Bhagavad Gita: ~ The permanent is always there, only the transient ‘I’ comes and goes. (2.18)

Remember:~

The ‘Self’ is not you but the ‘Self’ is the Soul, which is present in the form of consciousness.
You are bound by the birth, life, death, and the world whereas the ‘Soul is birthless and deathless because it is the ever formless, timeless, and spaceless existence.
If the ‘Self’ is not you then whatever is based on you is bound to be falsehood because you are the false self within the dualistic illusion.
The truth is based on the Soul, the Self. The ‘Self is not within you, but it is hidden within the illusory universe in which you exist.
Only people with half-baked knowledge propagate the ‘Self’ within the body and think of the ‘Self’ without the body and say ‘I AM THAT’. Such half-baked knowledge is not wisdom.
The Soul is the fullness of consciousness without the division of form, time, and space.

Holding ‘I’ as the ‘Self’ is the cause of ignorance. Realize the ‘I’ is merely an illusion. Stop identifying the Self as ‘I’ or ‘I AM’. Till you identify the Self as ‘I’ or ‘I AM’ the Soul will remain in the cage of ignorance.

First, know what is this ‘I’ supposed to be in actuality?

The ‘I’ is present in the form of the mind. The mind is present in the form of the universe.

The universe is present in the form of form, time, and space.

Without form, time, and space, there is no duality.

The duality is not a reality from the standpoint of the Soul, the Self.

The mind is present in the form of form, time, and space. Thus, whatever belongs to form, time and space is a falsehood.

The universe in which we exist as a reality is a falsehood. Thus, there is a need to know ‘what is what’ in order to realize the truth beyond form, time, and space.

The ‘I’ disappears as deep sleep, so what is the use of being attached to it? It is impermanent and illusory because ‘I’ is physical awareness. Physical awareness is not Self-awareness. ‘I-less awareness is Self-awareness.

There is really no ‘I’. The ‘I’ is present in the form of the mind. And the mind is in the form of the universe. And the universe appears as a waking or dream. The ‘I’ or mind or the universe or waking or dream dies disappears as deep sleep.

Thus, one that appears as ‘I’ or mind or the universe or waking or dream is consciousness, and it disappears as deep sleep is also consciousness. In deep sleep, it is in its formless nondual true nature. The one, which witnesses the coming and going of the three states, is also consciousness. Thus, the witness and witnessed are one in essence.

Thus, the universe is a reality on the base of individuality and the universe is unreal on the base of the Soul is the Self. The seeker gradually will grasp and realize the unreal nature of the universe or mind. Individuality is illusory because the Self is not an individual because the Self is ever nondual, and it pervades everything and everywhere in all three states. : ~ Santthosh Kumaar

Monday 12 September 2022

Lord Krishna taught the Karma and Bhakti yogis their own paths only to lead them up to the Gnana yoga path, which is the highest and the real object of his teaching.+


There are two kinds of audiences - the ordinary ones who desire the transitory heaven and other pleasures obtained as a result of ritual sacrifices, and the more advanced seeker who seeks to know the truth beyond the form, time, and space. The Bhagvad Gita is meant for the first audience, to help lead its followers along the way. The Sage Sankara emphasis on Advaitic wisdom is meant for those who wish to unfold the mystery of the universe. 
Scientific knowledge is limited to form, time and space. Self-knowledge is beyond form, time, and space. The birth, life, death, and the world are within the domain of form, time, and space. The Soul, the innermost Self, is a formless, timeless, and spaceless existence.
Consciousness is ever-present. Without consciousness, the world, in which you exist ceases to exist.
Consciousness is Self-evident. It is not established by extraneous proof. It is not possible to deny consciousness, because it is the very essence of the one who denies it.
Consciousness is the basis of all kinds of knowledge, presuppositions, and proofs. Consciousness is everything.

Thus, consciousness is the ultimate truth or Brahman or God in truth.

To see "Brahman in action" one must act. Therefore, if he remains inactive in a cave can never see Brahman.

Lord Krishna tells Arjuna to fight is misrepresented by Gurus as an order to kill other human beings, because they are mere ideas, Illusory, whereas  Lord says these ideas too are Brahman, and the ‘Self’ and hence no killing really occurs. Only when you see all individuals, especially the ‘Self’ as imagined ideas, can you rise to see them later as Brahman? Thus, there are two stages. You must first see the ‘Self’ as illusory before you see others as illusory. ~ CH.2 v.16

Bhagavad Gita gives dualistic worship of "God” it is only for the lower mindset; it also teaches Advaita for the more evolved. All insights of the Advaitic wisdom are hidden and misinterpreted so to get a glimpse of the truth is very difficult.  

Likewise, thinkers and poets of the Age of Devotion (Bhakti) of the 16th century believed in a God with attributes that became very tangible when incarnating as Avatar and were attainable simply through love and devotion rather than scholastic and intellectual meditation.

For the religious people,  the Bhagavad Gita became the main vehicle of inspiration with its qualified and deistic Monism, rather than the scholastic and esoteric path shown by Sage Sankara’s Advaitic path.

Sage  Sankara never rejected devotional prayer (Bhakti) or denied its value for he held that it was a necessary but intermediate stage for the adept on his journey to the ultimate realization of the true nature of the Universal Essence.

People worship God in various ways, not knowing the Truth. At different levels, at different epochs, and in different lands, people have different conceptions of God. They quarreled because they did not know the truth about God.

The conflict of opinions among mystics and religionists proves that all are imagining God as they like, not knowing God.

Lord Krishna says in  Gita and in it, he lashes out against the karmakanda. It is generally believed that the Buddha and Mahavira were the first to attack the Vedas.

It is not so. Lord  Krishna himself spoke against them long before these two religious leaders. At one place in the Gita, he says to Arjuna: "The Vedas are associated with the three qualities of sattva, rajas, and tamas.

 You must transcend these three qualities. Full of desire, they (the practitioners of Vedic rituals) long for paradise and keep thinking of pleasures and material prosperity. They are born again and again and their minds are never fixed in Samadhi, these men clinging to Vedic rituals.

Lord Krishna says: "Not by the Vedas is ‘Self’ to be realized, nor by sacrifices nor by many studies. . . . "

Bhagavad Gita 2:46:~ "A man of true knowledge who has attained enlightenment, has the same use for all the scriptures as one has a small reservoir of water in a place flooded on all sides."

Lord Krishna taught the Karma and Bhakti yogis their own paths only to lead them up to the Gnana yoga path, which is the highest and the real object of his teaching.: ~ Santthosh Kumaar

Remember:~

Maha Gita: ~ Krishna's Gita is a hodgepodge containing everything; hence it suits everyone because there is something in it for everyone. It is difficult to find any tradition whose voice is not found in the Gita. It is difficult to find anyone who does not take solace from the Gita. But for such people, Ashtavakra's Gita will prove very difficult.
Ashtavakra is not for synthesis -- he is a man of truth. He speaks the truth just as it is, without any artifice or coloring. He is not concerned about the listener, he does not care whether his listener will understand or not. Such a pure expression of truth has never happened anywhere before, nor has it ever happened again.
People love Krishna's Gita because it is very easy to extract one's own meaning from it. Krishna's Gita is poetic: in it, two plus two can equal five, and two plus two can also equal three. No such tricks are possible with Ashtavakra. With him, two plus two are exactly four. Ashtavakra's statements are statements of pure mathematics. There isn't the least possibility for a poetic license here. He says things as they are, without any sort of compromise.
Reading Krishna's Gita a devotee extracts something of which he can make a belief because Krishna spoke on bhakti, devotion. The karma yogi extracts his belief because Krishna has spoken on karma yoga, the Yoga of action. The believer in knowledge finds what he wants because Krishna has spoken on knowledge as well. Somewhere Krishna calls bhakti the ultimate, somewhere else he calls knowledge the ultimate, again elsewhere he calls karma yoga the ultimate.
Krishna's statements are very political. He was a politician, a perfect politician. Just to say he was a politician is not right; he was a shrewd politician, a real diplomat. In his statements, he considered and included many things. This is why the Gita suits everyone, why there are thousands of commentaries on the Gita. No one is concerned with Ashtavakra because to accept Ashtavakra you are going to have to drop yourself -- unconditionally. You cannot bring yourself along. Only if you stay behind can you come near him. With Krishna, you can bring yourself along. With Krishna, there is no need to transform yourself. With Krishna, you can fit just as you are.
Hence the founders of each tradition have written commentaries on Krishna's Gita -- Sankara, Ramanuja, Nimbarak, Vallabha -- everyone. Each has extracted his own meaning. Krishna has said things in such a way as to allow multiple meanings; hence I call his Gita poetic. You can draw out any meaning you like from a poem.
Krishna's statements are like clouds surrounding you in the rainy season: you see in them whatever you want. Someone may see an elephant's trunk, and someone sees the whole body of Ganesha, the elephant God. Someone may not see anything. He will say, "What nonsense you talk! They are clouds, vapor -- how is it you see forms in them?"
Krishna's Gita is just like this -- you will be able to see whatever is in your mind. So Sankara sees knowledge, Ramanuja sees bhakti, Tilak sees action -- and each returns home in a cheerful mood thinking that what Krishna says is the same as his belief.
This kind of suspicion often arises with Krishna too. Centuries have passed and commentaries on Krishna keep on coming. Each century finds its own meaning, and each person finds his own meaning. Krishna's Gita is like an ink blot... it is the statement of the perfect politician.
You cannot extract any beliefs from Ashtavakra's Gita. Only if you drop yourself as you move into it, will Ashtavakra's Gita become clear to you.
Ashtavakra's message is crystal clear. You won't be able to add even a small bit of your own interpretation to it. Hence people have not written commentaries on Ashtavakra's Gita. There is no scope for writing a commentary; there is no way to distort or twist it. Your mind has no chance to add anything.
Ashtavakra has given such an expression that no one has been able to add or take anything from it, even though centuries have passed. It is not easy to give such a perfect expression. Such skill with words is very difficult to come by.
This is why I say we are starting off on a rare journey. ~OSHO

There is no need to study philosophies of Berkeley, Kant, Hume, and other western and eastern philosophers.+

Science may give the scientific answers, religion the religious answers, and the yogi will give yogic answers but in pursuit of truth the se...